Aimee Patton

A pleasantly eccentric take on politics

This morning I read an interesting headline about the measles outbreak-

“Measles outbreak is forcing this country to have a much needed conversation about vaccinations.”

I love conversations.  I have them all the time.  In fact, my most recent conversation was whether or not the leather pants that Kim Kardashian wore to the zoo was a wise fashion choice….I say it wasn’t very respectful to the animals.  I’m sure other people may say the animals couldn’t give a damn.  Discuss….

See, that is an example of a much needed conversation.

That leads us to the much needed conversation about measles.  Let’s take a walk down memory lane.Kim K

We had measles in this country.

A vaccination was developed.

People were vaccinated against measles.

We didn’t have measles anymore.

Some false information came out about the dangers of vaccinations.

Some people stopped vaccinating their children against measles and other preventable diseases.

We now have measles again in this country.

The end.

I could put dates on these things, but I wouldn’t want to bore you with the details.  It doesn’t really matter.  We had it, we prevented it, it went away, people stopped preventing it and now it’s back. End of story.

I’m struggling with the “much needed” part of this conversation.  There isn’t really anything to discuss.  When car seats for babies and small children became mandatory – was that conversation also needed?  Car seats save children’s lives.  When that evidence was presented, were there also difficult conversations debating whether or not children should be buckled up? I’m guessing no, because it was a no brainer.

The important conversation here isn’t about vaccines, it’s a bigger discussion whether parents always know best.  My answer, as a parent, is no. There are cases that the government must step in with laws to protect the public.  We already have many laws in place to protect children.  Can children purchase cigarettes?  Can they buy alcohol? Why not?  Because we as a society have decided that it’s not up to the parents to decide if they want their children to buy these things.  We have decided that it’s not safe.  The same should go for vaccinations.  We have the public’s safety to consider, not if the parents’ know best.  We must vaccinate children against preventable diseases or we will continue to put the public at risk.  Diseases that haven’t been active in this country for decades will suddenly make an appearance.

There isn’t a need for a conversation.  It just has to happen.

Now back to that much needed conversation about Kim K.  She looks fab, but how about those shoes?  Was that the best choice for chasing a toddler around the zoo?

 

 

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23 thoughts on “Measles vaccinations – Lets have a much needed conversation.

  1. Condi says:

    The third item down over here this morning was about The Measles Right Movement – funny stuff.

  2. I just watched a conversation about this very topic this go down hill fast on a friend’s facebook page. As someone who photographs cemeteries and has shot pictures of headstones for children who died of measles, diphtheria, whopping cough, and other horrible things we generally don’t see much anymore, I’m all for taking the steps to prevent these illnesses. I sometimes think that part of our problem is that we went a few decades without seeing how devastating these illnesses can be, making it much easier to for those who are so inclined to dismiss the value of immunization.

  3. Also, I would trip and fall and land in the animal side of an exhibit if I wore those shoes.

    1. Aimee Patton says:

      Right?! I couldn’t manage those shoes at a black tie affair let alone at a zoo!

  4. Susan Mayer says:

    Good article… Slightly snarky!

    Susan

    Susan Mayer 74 Harley Street http://www.74harleystreet.com 913.244.4900

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    1. Aimee Patton says:

      Thanks Susan! Thanks for helping me brainstorm! You are a dear friend. Aimee

  5. Rick Cooley says:

    Reblogged this on Rcooley123's Blog and commented:
    It’s interesting to note that many of those politicians who advocated swift and strict (not to mention medically unnecessary or counterproductive) government authoritarian steps in dealing with the ebola outbreak seem to have now switched sides when it comes to vaccinations with regard to the current measles outbreak. Funny how that works.

  6. Read somewhere, this is a paraphrase. Kanye, your wife is a porn star and your kid is a compass. Sit down already.

  7. barkway says:

    I want you to have that discussion with the parents of a child who was perfectly normal and healthy…UNTIL they got a vaccine. Then discuss who pays for the lifetime costs in service and support for that child from that harm.

    1. neilaplin says:

      Except the vaccine didn’t cause your unhealthy child example – or do you actually have some EVIDENCE?!

  8. Taryn L says:

    It is a little bit more complicated that comparing seat belts and injecting untested chemicals in our bodies. Here is a list. Aluminum is thought to more toxic than mercury. just saying…

    aluminum hydroxide
    * aluminum phosphate
    * ammonium sulfate
    * amphotericin B
    * animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
    * arginine hydrochloride
    * dog kidney, monkey kidney,
    * dibasic potassium phosphate
    * chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
    * calf (bovine) serum
    * betapropiolactone
    * fetal bovine serum
    * formaldehyde
    * formalin
    * gelatin
    * gentamicin sulfate
    * glycerol
    * human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
    * hydrocortisone
    * hydrolized gelatin
    * mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate(r))
    * monosodium glutamate (MSG)
    * monobasic potassium phosphate
    * neomycin
    * neomycin sulfate
    * nonylphenol ethoxylate
    * octylphenol ethoxylate
    * octoxynol 10
    * phenol red indicator
    * phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
    * potassium chloride
    * potassium diphosphate
    * potassium monophosphate
    * polymyxin B
    * polysorbate 20
    * polysorbate 80
    * porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
    * residual MRC5 proteins
    * sodium deoxycholate
    * sorbitol
    * thimerosal
    * tri(n)butylphosphate,
    * VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and
    * washed sheep red blood

    1. barkway says:

      Bingo!

    2. Aimee Patton says:

      I would like to see what your child eats in a normal day. Do you allow them McDonalds? Even without the evils of fast food, the normal intake of most foods have them ingesting preservatives that would rival most of the ingredients that are found in vaccines. Take a look at the back of a granola bar….what’s the difference?

      1. AMotherWhoKnows says:

        Funny how you turn on the other person with a personal attack. Nice blog job.

        Those posting about headstones of, and other such things about deaths…do you realize that the percentage of those deaths and bad side effects were rare compared with statistics of those adversely affected by vaccines that are actually untested as safe and effective. Yes, that is correct. There are no actual studies other than those funded and performed by people paid by the pharmaceutical companies to prove they are safe and effective. You all are just taking their word for it, because….science. I say it is junk science and you are naive to follow so blindly. Lets look at history a bit.

        Back in the day, when I was growing up, we got all the childhood illnesses and lived. The incidence of death was .001%. We benefitted with natural immunity which is more lasting and stronger than vaccines temporary immunity. Even the CDC points this out. We have broken the cycle of natural immunity at the detriment to our health.

        When we got the diseases and developed life long immunity, we then passed it on to our babies as mothers carried the child and as mothers nursed the child. Infants had natural immunity for a few years from the mother. Then in school age, after the infant immunity wore off, the child would get the disease and develop the strong and longer lasting immunity that having the disease provided, into adulthood. Back then, infants and elderly didn’t get these diseases. School age children did.

        Then we started giving vaccines. Lets take measles, for instance. We have been giving this vaccine that wears off after a couple of years, then we have to give another dose, and then another. It is never ending and is not effective. So now the school age children are not getting this disease, but later in life they can get it. So the answer is to give more vaccines in adult years?

        Meanwhile, these vaccinated generations are growing up, having children of their own and do not have the long lasting natural immunity. They are no longer passing the natural immunity on to their babies. Infants are no longer protected, as they were in pre-vaccine generations. So NOW infants are at risk, as are the elderly, as these vaccine generations age and the weaker and short lived pseudo immunity wears off.

        This cycle is what has put the two most vulnerable age groups at high risk of getting these diseases, the lack of natural immunity that is far superior to the vaccine immunity.

        And now you nuts want to FORCE people to take all the vaccines you have deemed necessary. We are overdoing it and we are not really knowledgeable of what is really going on, if we take this path.

        What I am telling you is fact. You can research it, if you go to non-biased sources that are not in collusion with the large pharmaceutical corporations. Again, even the CDC has mention of this natural immunity infants used to have and no longer have. We have done this to the infants in our rush to “save” school age children from diseases that had minimal risk of killing them.

        I feel sorry for you folks living in denial for the sake of your worship of what you think is science. It is really a brain washing you have received from the corporations as they convinced you that we all need this so that they can keep selling it to make money. Use your common sense and do some ACTUAL research for change before you try to make laws to force others to believe the hype you believe.

    3. neilaplin says:

      Ah, so vaccines (according to you) actually poisons children, and doesn’t save lives. Interesting, except the vast concensus of expert opinion has proved otherwise … with evidence. Just saying …

  9. Fred Zimmerman says:

    You know that person that starts singing a song that has nothing to do with your conversation except one word? Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46hd6DZS0ww

  10. David Murphy says:

    The percentage of kids being diagnosed has jumped.. the percentage of kids who are on the spectrum hasn’t changed in the past several decades!
    This is worth a watch: http://rightwingnews.com/top-news/watch-2-magicians-destroy-anti-vaccine-movement-90-seconds/
    I think alot of – particularly – Silicon Valley parents are astonished to think they could have any sort of spectrum kids in their families outside of something like vaccines causing the issue… when it’s probably genetically been in their families for generations.. especially where both parents are engineers… I speak from experience. Carry on!

  11. David Murphy says:

    Yes Aimee, we agree for a change! Cheers!

  12. Raquel says:

    There is no evidence that the MMR causes Autism or any other illness. This has been studied over and over. Yet very young infants and children who cannot be vaccinated (i.e. children who’s immune system is compromised) depend on herd immunity. I think it is our civic duty to immunize. And if you chose not to, (and I know how this sounds but I cannot figure out a better solution) you must move your and your family to a self imposed exile to someplace else. Remote. And cannot leave. As someone above noted, people have forgotten the horrors of polio and pertussis. I watched a child die of measles while I went to medical school. These people put more than there own children at risk (and I am setting aside the whole Child Protective thing) they are putting many, many other others at risk based on anecdotes. And the whole autism thing? We are much better at diagnosing now than ever before, and diagnose on a spectrum. This is settled medical science. Vaccinate your children. It saves lives. Others lives. And hopefully as soon as they are old enough to make their own decisions, their own too.

  13. Part of the problem about vaccinations is that politicians view mass vaccination as a quick fix. Vaccinations do carry health risks. Most often the benefit is balanced by the risk. As much information as possible is needed so people along with their doctors can decide. The politicians want herd immunity, so they downplay vaccination damage. This means people aren’t informed and there isn’t pressure to identify problems with vaccinations to make them safer. What concerns me about vaccinations is widespread ignorance. If we are going to have our children vaccinated we want facts. I am a Brit, grew up in the fifties before the measles vaccine. Measles was common, there was a lot of natural immunity but nobody knew the extent of damage from measles. Deaths were known, but not the extent nor nature of permanent brain damage. What few vaccinations existed, everyone accepted the harm of the disease was greater than the risk of vaccination. It was also accepted that babies and infants are vulnerable and no child should be vaccinated unless the child was the primary beneficiary. For example vaccination against German measles was delayed until 16 when all girls at school were vaccinated. My view is vaccinations should be the minimum necessary, and only for the benefit of the infant. Herd vaccination that benefits others can be delayed to a later and safer age. And doctors must be involved in the decision. There are family risk factors which can mean a vaccination might not be suitable for a particular child. The way politicians have handled the issue has scared some people into not vaccinating – but I think there is a case that over-vaccination is happening. You are completely right – much more conversation is needed.

  14. Reblogged this on wallacerunnymede and commented:
    Indeed. Should taking chemotherapy for cancer be left to the discretion of parents? Or indeed blood transfusions? (Oh… wait!)

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